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  • 1.  Caseloads for Transitional Care Nurses

    Posted 09-19-2024 16:05
    Hi AAACN community! Do you have caseload levels that you require your TCM nurses to maintain? My team nurses each follow their patients for 30 days upon discharge. Do you have a percentage or whole number you use as a guide for them?
    Thanks!
    Tammye Ross
    Tammyegross@gmail.com


  • 2.  RE: Caseloads for Transitional Care Nurses

    Posted 09-20-2024 07:09
    Hello All!
    I would be interested as well. Industry standards are nebulous in that it appears dependent on acuity of the patients. thank you

    Melissa Taylor, MSN, RN, AMB-BC, NE-BC

    Director of Ambulatory Nursing – Primary Care

    Elliot Medical Group

    Phone: 603-663-3503

    Email: mtaylor@elliot-hs.org

     

     

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  • 3.  RE: Caseloads for Transitional Care Nurses

    Posted 09-21-2024 05:45
    Hi Ashley and Melissa, and all readers,
    Thank you for your responses and input. Yes, nebulous indeed are the guidelines out there for determining caseloads. We have tried the “call every discharged pt” as well as the prioritization method. One gets us burned out nurses and the other gets us boxed in and reduces our overall opportunity. There is a sweet spot we need to find. Is the highest risk, sickest population where we focus? or is it the rising risk patients that we focus on? Our current algorithm prioritizes by LACE+ combined with our internally-developed general risk score of the patient, which takes into consideration the 6 and 12 month utilization as well as all chronic comorbidities. My team also performs 3-5 Medicare Annual Wellness Visits each day. There is definitely “no moss growing”, but we have a large opportunity in this area. I believe a percentage is the way to go since patient size varies at each primary care location we have. I look forward to everyone’s ongoing discussion.
    Tammye Ross




  • 4.  RE: Caseloads for Transitional Care Nurses

    Posted 09-22-2024 20:24

    Hello,

     

    If the highest risk patients are about 5% of the attributed population, would that be the sweet spot? Seems low but also working with higher acuity patients can take more time. Or is it the tope 5% you follow for 30 days and make only the initial to the rising risk population with a handoff to care managers if patient could benefit from further self management support? Also, wondering if we pulled a couple nurses together doing the work to get their input. Based on their volumes and what they can get done in a day... it would be interesting for that dialogue to come up with a pilot metric.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Ashley Rosa, MSN, BSN, RN

    Manager Ambulatory Care Management

    Bronson Healthcare Group, Michigan


    Bronson Healthcare – A Forbes Best-In-State Employer (2022-2024)

     




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  • 5.  RE: Caseloads for Transitional Care Nurses

    Posted 09-20-2024 14:14

    Hi Tammye,

     

    Could you share more about your TCM nurses? Our TOC volume is so large we would not be able to follow patients for 30-days. Do you follow all patients or have criteria for those your team need to follow?

     

    We set a target for at least 12 calls on average a day. That being said, there are more that go uncalled, and if we followed all the patients, we would have a rolling 240 per nurse a month. I have tried to research caseloads through my years in care management and there are not set protocols or targets that I have been able to clearly find.

     

    I did however find the following:

    • Sg2 2016
      • Health Coaches 30-150 panel size for care coordination by RNs (could use staff with other credentials)
      • Contact Center 80-120 panel size for care coordination by RNs

     

    • Advisory Board 2014
      • Finally, Reliant employs Transition Coordinators, medical assistants used to support both the Complex and the Chronic Care Managers. These coordinators are charged with managing all high-risk and rising-risk patient transitions from hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, and rehabilitation centers and facilitating access to social support programs. Transition Coordinators typically manage 300 to 400 discharges per month.

     

     

    With that, I am also interest in knowing caseloads for both TOC nurses and complex/chronic care management nurses. Thank you!

     

    Ashley Rosa, MSN, BSN, RN

    Manager Ambulatory Care Management

    Bronson Healthcare Group, Michigan


    Bronson Healthcare – A Forbes Best-In-State Employer (2022-2024)

     

     

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