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  • 1.  nasopharyngeal swabs

    Posted 01-15-2025 08:00

     

    Good day all, our practices decided years ago not to allow a Medical Assistant to obtain a nasopharyngeal swab. We are revisiting the subject and wondering how others handle obtaining the specimen  why or why not. Thank you kindly, Tracy

     

    Tracy Colburn, DNP, MSN, RN

    Provider Practice Support Team

    York Hospital

    207-351-3572

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  • 2.  RE: nasopharyngeal swabs

    Posted 01-16-2025 08:06
    Edited by Andrea Kelly 01-16-2025 08:13

    We allow MAs to obtain NP swabs. We would not have been able to perform the levels of testing we needed to perform during COVID otherwise. We had multiple drive through testing sites set up throughout our region, including pop-up sites with partner churches throughout that summer. 

    If the MA was not already performing NP swabs (many already were for other specimen collections), they were competency validated. If they were able to be validated in real time (just-in-time training) that was best. We also were able to borrow the NG tube trainer from the hospital, which was a plexiglass type model but was great for our purposes because the learner was able to actually see the angle and depth they needed to use to get a proper NP swab collected. We ended up being able to purchase a different version later on, but this is the trainer we used at the time: https://www.healthedco.com/84087-Nasogastric-Intubation-Model?quantity=1&custcol_item_source=www.healthedco.com We also used the trainer for nurses that may not have been comfortable and needed a refresher on swabbing before beginning collection. 

    We used the CDC guidelines as a resource, and internally have access to Elsevier Nursing Skills as an additional resource to videos and a checklist. 

    CDC guidelines: https://www.cdc.gov/covid/hcp/clinical-care/clinical-specimen-guidelines.html

    ETA: I'm in North Carolina. The NCMB is broad in the delegation guidelines for the provider to MA and notes that there needs to be training, the task should be "established by custom" and there needs to be some level of supervision but that it doesn't need to be direct supervision. As a RN, I'm more limited in what I can delegate as the MA is considered by the NCBON to be considered unlicensed assistive personnel (UAP) but if I needed to delegate a swab to a MA, I should be able to since it falls within the guidelines of the delegation tree. 

    https://www.ncmedboard.org/resources-information/professional-resources/publications/forum-newsletter/article/delegating-medical-tasks-to-unlicensed-personnel

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    Andrea Kelly MSN, RN, NPD-BC
    ECU Health Physicians (formerly Vidant Medical Group)
    Greenville NC
    (252) 847-3930
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  • 3.  RE: nasopharyngeal swabs

    Posted 01-16-2025 08:08

    My organization has followed the same process as Andrea's organization.  We do allow Medical Assistants to obtain NP swabs with competency validations.



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    Dedria Sowder, MSN-Ed, RN, AMB-BC, CPN
    Leadership SIG Past Chair
    Clinical Educator, Carilion Clinic
    Roanoke Virginia
    540-314-3028
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  • 4.  RE: nasopharyngeal swabs

    Posted 01-16-2025 08:52

    Thank you all. Happy Thursday!

     

     

    Tracy Colburn, DNP, MSN, RN

    Provider Practice Support Team

    York Hospital

    207-351-3572

    York Hospital Logo

     






  • 5.  RE: nasopharyngeal swabs

    Posted 01-16-2025 09:55

    We allow MAs and PCTs to perform swabs after the completion of a competency.



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    Susan Bond, MSN-Ed, RN
    RN Clinical Educator - Ambulatory
    Sanford Health
    Bismarck, ND
    susan.bond@sanfordhealth.org
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  • 6.  RE: nasopharyngeal swabs

    Posted 01-16-2025 10:10

    Hi Tracy,

     

    We allow all clinical staff (MA, LPN, RN) who've successfully completed a competency to obtain a nasopharyngeal specimen.  This practice is aligned between our medical group and urgent care clinics.

     

    Danielle Smith MSN, RN

    she/her/hers

    Clinical Practice Leader, Children's Medical Group

    Cell: 262-989-1999

     

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